June 7, 2021

As deputy national security advisor to President Barack Obama, Ben Rhodes played a critical role in shaping U.S. relations with the rest of the world. After the 2016 election, however, he began traveling abroad in the hope of better understanding undemocratic currents at home. In his new memoir, After the Fall: Being American in the World We’ve Made, Rhodes shares insights gleaned from politicians, activists, and dissidents who have been on the frontlines of the fight against authoritarianism and ethnonationalism in their own countries. While clear-eyed about how the United States has contributed to these global trends, he offers a vision of how the country can usher in a brighter future. 

Vivian Salama, National Security Correspondent at The Wall Street Journal, served as interlocutor. This event was produced in partnership with the Brennan Center for Justice.


Ben Rhodes (MFA '02)

Vivian Salama