Applying to the Ph.D. program
in Economics at NYU
If you are thinking of
applying to the Ph.D.program in economics, read this FAQ before contacting individual
professors. This is not to discourage you from being in touch with us, but
only because most of the questions you have in mind have probably been asked
before. (So much for individuality!) Of course, do contact us if you have a
special situation not addressed here, and we will do our best to help.
The FAQ here is specially
tailored for applicants in economics. NYU's Graduate School of Arts and Science
maintains a webpage
with extensive information on application procedures.
How
many students apply to your program, and how many do you take?
What
proportion of the entering class is awarded financial aid, and what are the
terms of aid?
What
if I have an institutional fellowship, such as a government scholarship?
What
if I want to come on my own money?
Do
I get different treatment if I belong to a particular
ethnic/religious/national/gender category?
How
important is a background in economics?
And
a background in mathematics?
What
sort of mathematics courses should I have taken?
Can
I apply to the Ph.D. if I have only a B.A/B.Sc degree? Don't I have to get an
M.A. first?
Do
I have to take the TOEFL and GRE examinations?
Tell
me what you look for in a good application. In particular, how important are the
GREs? Transcripts? Letters of recommendation?
I
need to include a personal statement as part of my application. Is this
important?
Does
work experience count?
Should
I include a sample of my research in the application?
Does
it help to be in touch with an NYU faculty member in advance?
Is
there a particular set of skills and qualifications that would guarantee
entrance into the program?
Fair
enough, but just what is it that you are looking for in an applicant?
Should
I try getting into the M.A. program at NYU and then plan to move over to the
Ph.D. program?
Do
you encourage transfers from other Ph.D. programs?
How many students apply
to your program, and how many do you take?
Over the last two years,
we have averaged over 1000 applicants per year. We take 20. We make more than 20
offers, somewhere between 30 and 40.
What
proportion of the entering class is awarded financial aid, and what are the
terms of aid?
NYU's Graduate School of
Arts and Sciences provides for full financial aid for every entering Ph.D.
student for a minimum of four years (conditional on satisfactory academic
performance). Typically, the first 1.5 years of this financial aid package, and
the remaining 2.5 years must be spent as a TA or an RA.
What
if I have an institutional fellowship, such as a government scholarship?
Then NYU will adjust the
terms of its offer to you, but you will be brought up to the NYU scholarship
level if the outside funding falls short. This is still an advantage to you
because it allows us to guarantee you (sometimes, not always, and
depending on your other funding) five years of funding instead of four, and your
TA/RA requirement may be reduced.
What
if I want to come on my own money?
You can't. You need to be
supported either by NYU or by an institution.
Do
I get different treatment if I belong to a particular
ethnic/religious/national/gender category?
In general, no. We look
for the best people regardless of these categories. However, if you belong to a
minority group as defined by U.S. law, we may be able to supplement your
funding (conditional on being granted admission), though there are no
guarantees.
How
important is a background in economics?
Typically, very important,
to the point of being crucial. We will look at your application if you have a
top-notch background in, say, mathematics and have a real interest in economics,
but economics is not just applied mathematics. So we value applicants who are
trained in the subject.
And
a background in mathematics?
It is imperative that you
have had exposure to mathematics. A degree in mathematics is not required,
though we look especially carefully at applicants with a joint degree in
economics and mathematics.
What
sort of mathematics courses should I have taken?
You should definitely have
taken single-variable and multivariate calculus. It is expected that you would
have a background in linear algebra, and an exposure to probability and
statistics. Many of our applicants also have a background in difference or
differential equations, and they have been exposed to rigorous thinking in
limits, continuity, and basic topological concepts (openness, compactness,
etc.). There are a good number of applicants who have more than this: e.g., some
measure theory and exposure to rigorous probability theory and stochastic
processes.
The most important thing
to realize is that you cannot jam math courses into the last term before you
apply for a Ph.D. and create the same impression as someone who has been
consistently trained mathematically. It is also important to realize that we are
not looking for mathematical wizards but individuals who have a reasonable
amount of mathematical maturity and can apply their logical mind to economic
questions.
Can
I apply to the Ph.D. if I have only a B.A/B.Sc degree? Don't I have to get an
M.A. first?
You can apply with a
4-year B.A. degree from the United States, or its equivalent. Keep in mind,
however, that lots of applicants (mainly international applicants) have serious
master's degrees in which they have continued to build up substantial skills. If
you are from a country with a three-year B.A. degree you should be aware of
this. In general, though, the equivalent of a 4-year bachelor's degree is good
enough.
Do
I have to take the TOEFL and GRE examinations?
You have to take the GRE
test. If you are an applicant from China you have to take the "paper
version" of the GRE test. For NYU's TOEFL policy, click here.
Tell
me what you look for in a good application. In particular, how important are the
GREs? Transcripts? Letters of recommendation?
The GREs typically set out
necessary rather than sufficient conditions. We look for strong quantitative
skills. We know that the GRE does not test those skills adequately, but if you
score below some threshold (say, below 740) you either had a bad day or there is
a problem with the mathematics background somewhere. Do we immediately condemn
you on those grounds? Not at all, but if you have low GREs you will have to have
that much of a stronger application elsewhere to "make up" for it.
Conversely, if you have
780 or 800 don't sit back and relax. Many of our applicants achieve perfect
scores, many more than we can admit. The rest of your application will be looked
at very seriously.
Your transcripts will be
looked at very carefully. If you are not a U.S. applicant don't worry: we have
ways of figuring out and calibrating your scores using our own experience,
background, and the knowledge we have of existing students. We look at your
economics and mathematics background very closely, using your transcripts.
Your letters of
recommendation are extremely important. They should come from academic
professionals who have taught you or have interacted with you (e.g., as
undergraduate thesis supervisor). The letters should be honest, revealing of
your strengths (and weaknesses), and if possible should attempt to rank you
within the context of the recommender's own professional experience. It may be a
good idea to tell your recommender that we want such a letter. It is all right
to write things like "She is a very pleasant person" or "He bears
a fine moral character" and we take such things seriously, but in the end
these statements won't get you into a top graduate program.
Ideally, your letters
should come from academics, individuals who are seriously active in teaching and
research. If you have worked in a company and your boss writes us a letter,
there is only so much [s]he can tell us about what we really want to know.
Similarly, if a top government official knows you or your family and writes a
letter on your behalf, it is of limited use to us (and therefore to you).
Do not be concerned
about getting letters from "important" academics or researchers. We
can tell a lot about your letter writers from the letters they have written
before, and from the way they write. These things matter a lot more than whether
your recommender has won the Nobel Prize in economics (often, the so-called
"important" people don't have the time to write a serious letter).
I
need to include a personal statement as part of my application. Is this
important?
Very. We take this
statement seriously and --- believe it or not --- in conjunction with the rest
of your application, we can often tell when you have written it as
opposed to someone else! A good statement should be clear, not too long, and to
the point. We do not expect you to define your Ph.D. topic exactly, but also
expect that you would be able to define your interests beyond the usual broad
classifications of micro, macro and so on.
Does
work experience count?
Good question. The answer
is: it depends. If you have been --- say --- an investment banker for 5 years
before you applied to a Ph.D. in economics at NYU, you probably have serious
work experience but probably none of it will point towards your success (or
failure) in a research program. So far as the doctoral degree in economics is
concerned, you're probably better off applying just after graduating from
university. [This is not to denigrate investment banking at all, but only to
point out that it signals very little about the kind of skills we're looking
for.]
If you have been, say, at
the World Bank, or an intern at the Fed, very similar considerations may apply.
It all depends on exactly what you have been doing, but in general don't expect
to jump into a priority queue because of this sort of work experience. While
experience certainly counts as a positive attribute, it also means that you've
been out of touch with academic research for a few years. While experience helps
you ask a new set of questions, it can also sometimes close you off to new
academic methodologies or ideas. Work experience cuts both ways.
Should
I include a sample of my research in the application?
Sure. We encourage it. But
"research" isn't the literature survey you wrote for a course, or a
term paper. That sort of thing will have little or negative value. If you have
written a paper and are unsure whether you should send it in with your
application, ask your professor. [S]he will know whether your paper has that
spark of originality we might be interested in seeing. Use this option
sparingly, because it can reveal a lot about you!
Does
it help to be in touch with an NYU faculty member in advance?
Yes and no (mainly no).
Very often a faculty member gets email from an applicant saying that [s]he wants
to work with that faculty member. But this isn't possible until the applicant
enters the program, takes the core courses, passes the qualifying examinations,
and only then is a thorough assessment carried out (including a lot of
self-assessment) and an advisor chosen. So don't use this as a way of trying get
a professor to support your application.
Of course, it may be
genuinely the case that your own interests lead you to interact with one of our
faculty members, quite apart from the question of admissions. In that case your
queries will almost always be met with a suitable response. The point is that in
most cases, it is easy enough to separate a real research inquiry from a message
designed to try and obtain admission.
Is
there a particular set of skills and qualifications that would guarantee
entrance into the program?
No. And it is important to
realize this: we take 20 out of 1000. Of course we may not be able to make you
an offer even if you are very, very good. In addition, we could (and
unfortunately do) make mistakes in our rankings. So you should never feel
depressed if you are turned down by a top program. You are competing with the
best from all over the world, and getting one rejection is no reflection on your
ability.
Fair
enough, but just what is it that you are looking for in an applicant?
It isn't easy to define
this, but what we look for is evidence of creativity, originality, drive ...
ingredients that will make you a successful researcher. The ability to do well
in courses or exams is correlated with this talent, and we certainly look for
that and we also demand that you do well in our coursework, but that isn't the
ultimate goal. Many students are really good at coursework but are just not the
same when it comes to research. What about vice versa? Well, we all read about
such exceptions and we all admire them, but that's who they are: exceptions. [We
look for them as well, but they're harder to find.]
Should
I try getting into the M.A. program at NYU and then plan to move over to the
Ph.D. program?
Apply to the M.A. program
by all means but please do not see it as an avenue for subsequently entering the
Ph.D. program. The two programs are run separately, and have different course
offerings. Of course, we would value the M.A. degree from NYU as part of your
subsequent application, just as we would value the M.A. degree from other good
universities.
Do
you encourage transfers from other Ph.D. programs?
In general, no. We take
the overall position that transfers are not a good idea. Your existing Ph.D.
program has presumably invested a lot in you (and vice versa). Of course, there
may be pressing personal reasons or special academic contingencies under which a
transfer is advisable, but don't expect your application to stand out simply by
virtue of the fact that you are already enrolled in a Ph.D. program.